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arrest. fourth, bissinger also pointed out that corbett took close to $202,000 in gubernatorial campaign donations from board members of the charity started by sandusky. and in the meantime there were all of two state investigators, some even say it was just one, assigned to the case of that predatory animal until corbett became governor in 2011, and its with it was only afterward that the investigation expanded into the scope it always deserved. finally, many legal experts are opining that the lawsuit is unlikely to succeed. lester munson at espn today noted that the only apparent legal theory is based on antitrust laws that govern monopolies that use their prices to fix prices or to manipulate markets. the ncaa might be a monopoly but doesn't appear to be conspiring to manipulate any market. a worthy lawsuit or a political missive? voters will be the ultimate jury. that's "hardball" for now. thank you for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz
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starts right now. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. the republican propaganda effort on the debt ceiling ends here tonight. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> in a couple of months the president will ask us to raise the nation's debt limit. >> the debt limit fight has begun, and so has the deception on the right. >> no need for drama. and we don't want any. >> tonight, my breakdown of the republican strategy to hijack the economy, and how democrats plan to fight it. >> we cannot be about business as usual, and that's what my vote was. >> the 113th congress is sworn in, and the circus is already in full swing. richard wolffe on today's bizarre vote for speaker of the house and how the 113th congress could crash the economy. plus, the sandy relief disgrace continues. >> your two senators packed this with pork.
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the speaker made the right decision. >> i'll talk to a business owner who can't survive until house republicans act quickly. and the president has called bill o'reilly's bluff and raised his taxes. >> if barack obama begins taxing me more than 50%, which is very possible, i don't know how much longer i'm going to do this. >> tonight we bid a fond farewell to the mayor of cable news. >> i like my job, but there comes a point when taxation becomes oppressive. >> good to have you with us tonight folks. thanks for watching. the next fight over our economic future is under way. republicans are making sure the fight is dirty. president obama and congressional democrats do not have any time to celebrate the fiscal cliff deal they reached earlier this week. in about two months the country will reach its spending limit. republicans already announced their intentions to hold the debt ceiling hostage once again. >> i think there's going to be a whole new field of battle when the debt ceiling rolls around.
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most of us have pledged that we're going to have to, before we vote again to raise the debt ceiling, even though it may be at great political cost, we've got to address spending, and that means entitlements. >> well, there you have it. republicans are treating the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. the senate republican leader thinks he has a winning hand here. mitch mcconnell is leading the charge to get major concessions out of the president of the united states in exchange for a vote to increase the debt ceiling. mcconnell wrote an op-ed for yahoo news today saying the fiscal cliff fight represented "the last word on taxes. that debate is over. the strategy is only increase the debt limit if there is an equal amount of spending cuts. we simply cannot increase the nation's borrowing limit without committing to long overdue reforms to spending programs that are the very cause of our debt." that's what makes my blood boil. it is the wars that started all of this that they never paid for. so according to mcconnell, there will be no new revenue to reduce
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the deficit, just cuts to spending programs like the big three. he wants the president to play ball. or else the country will default on its debts, its good faith, and the united states around the world. mcconnell told his caucus members this -- "we will have the tount put our country back on sound financial footing and there's no excuse not to seize it." but the only way mcconnell can make this strategy work is if he goes out and lies about the president's role when it comes to the debt ceiling. >> by demanding the power to raise the debt limit whenever he wants by as much as he wants, he showed what he's really after is assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars without any limit at all. >> oh, yeah. he wants to be a dictator. so let's just put this all in perspective here. hold on a second. let's be clear about what mitch mcconnell is actually saying. mcconnell claims the president wants to raise the debt ceiling
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so he can spend whatever money he wants at any time he wants. i want to make sure we all understand who mitch mcconnell is. mcconnell is a law school graduate. he served as deputy assistant attorney general under gerald ford. he's been around washington a long time. he is the longest-serving u.s. senator from the state of kentucky. the republican leader in a johnny come lately to this game. he's no dummy when it comes to what the constitution says or how the congress works. so mcconnell is intentionally lying to the american people about the president and the debt ceiling. according to the united states constitution, congress is the only branch of government with the power to tax or spend. mitch mcconnell knows this. the debt limit is not part of the constitution. you know what it is? it's a statute from a 1917 law about liberty bonds. according to the statute, well, only congress can raise the debt limit. so if the debt limit is raised, the president can't spend more
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money, can't do it on his own. we're talking about money that has been borrowed, appropriated and spent by the congress. mcconnell's lie is being spread by other congressional republicans. >> the fact that the president is making unprecedented power grabs for the executive branch and now not only wants the authority to make laws through the rule-making process but wants the opportunity to borrow money in unlimited amounts anytime and anywhere he chooses. >> listen to this republican congressman misunderstand what a blank check is while saying the president has unilateral power over the debt ceiling? >> the president really asked for a blank check here. and when you're talking about $1.65 trillion annual deficits, we're not talking about small movement. it's very important. in fact, it's probably the most
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important threat to this nation's economy today-s our debt ceiling and what we do with it. >> republicans will stop at nothing to spread this lie like wildfire. and as of now the president is standing strong. dnc chairwoman debbie wasser sman schultz, the congresswoman from florida, says the debt ceiling will not be on the table. >> debt ceiling is a separate issue. the bottom line is congress incurs bills, they have to be paid, and the debt ceiling is not going to be a component of these negotiations. >> so now president and the democrats need to make sure that they hold the line. liberals want him to do just that. president obama already has a mechanism in place to engage americans. he can go directly to the american people. the president already plans to use the bully pulpit of his state of the union address to make the case. he's also pushing forward with other reforms like immigration. administration officials do not want the president's second term to be sidelined by a financial brawl. but while the president engages republicans on other legislative agendas, the country needs to stay invested in this economic
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fight on capitol hill. democrats and progressives, they know this fight. they did it well in the 2012 campaign. they fought hard during the fiscal cliff fight and won that. clearly. this is basically the start of a new campaign. if you don't stay focused, if we don't stay focused, if we don't make sure that everybody in this country knows exactly what the republicans are up to, who knows where we're going to go. they're after the big three. that's what they want. you can fight for the big three. but you've got to get engaged. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, will the american people fall for the republican lies about the debt ceiling? text a for yes, text b for no to 622639. you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. joining us tonight is congressman john garamendi of california. congressman, always a pleasure to have you on "the ed show." >> the pleasure is mine. >> here we go. the 113th off to a roaring start.
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and the question is do you think the republicans, to save their own, to save their own agenda, will they take us into default? what do you think? >> they certainly sound like they are. and i've got to believe the american public is so sick of this holding them, the american public, hostage. that's really what it's all about. and what mcconnell said is the hostages that he wants to take with the seniors, those people that have paid for years into their retirement program called social security and also into their medical program called medicare. how in the world he thinks he can win this by holding seniors hostage on the things that they have paid year after year for, i don't understand. the american public should be really, really sick of this kind of thing. we've got work to do. >> but john, do you think they don't fear the consequences of defaulting on the country's debt? i mean, they're very risque with their language, and they're also very direct that they don't even seem to care at this point.
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>> well, i think they're going to care. their supporters. let's talk about their supporters, big business. big business relies heavily upon the solvency of the american government, on the ability of american government to pay its bills, and if they're going to somehow take us over a new cliff on the debt limit, those folks are going to get really upset. we're talking about wall street here. they're the ones that are going to come after these republicans and say hey, wake up, guys, this is us you're hurting. to say nothing of the rest of america and indeed the world who has invested in american bonds. >> you think wall street will be behind the democrats in this fight? >> yes, i do. they're the ones that sell these bonds, that process this system. they're the ones that have invested in their own various portfolios and funds. american bonds are extraordinarily important. and if for some reason they're downgraded, as they were in the last fight, the hurt goes to wall street. it goes to the international bankers. they're going to come after
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these republicans. but the american public ought to be fed up with this kind of hostage taking. >> sure. but this is a key point here. are the republicans willing to do irreparable harm to their own party if their own kind, wall street, maybe even the chamber of commerce, is not going to like to see the united states default on its debts because it's going to disrupt business, there's going to be hordes of unemployment, it's going to have a global effect. and you're talking about the public. i get that. the public would even be even more infuriated. so is this the bargaining chip the president has? knowing that they really don't want to injury themselves generationally in the political arena like this. your thoughts. >> well, history is usually a good place to look for what might happen in the future. in recent history, just this week, we saw what happens when the republicans tried to hold again america hostage over the fiscal cliff so they could get their way. they lost. they lost big-time. but ed, there's one other thing
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here. the american public's like that horse you that talked about that you ewe r used to ride to go out and take care of the cattle. that horse had power. it was ready to go. it needed a sense of direction. if we in congress can give the public a clear sense of direction there's just going to be a takeoff in this economy because they're ready to build this economy, ready to hire people, but all this uncertainty is really, really detrimental. >> this is how republican congresswoman cynthia lumis described how the debt ceiling works. here it is. >> the president runs up the credit card, and when that credit card hits its debt limit, its limit, he gets to pull another credit card out of his pocket and start spending again. >> does your colleague not understand the powers of congress, or is she intentionally misleading the american people? >> well, i think they get caught up in their own talking points, ed. you know, the talking points sound good until you actually read the constitution. the president has absolutely no authority to appropriate money.
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or to spend the money. he has to follow the laws pass the by congress, the taxes raised by congress. he has no authority beyond that. the debt limit simply tells the treasury that they cannot refinance the bonds, they cannot sell additional notes. but it is in fact the congress who has over time, and you mentioned it, ten years of war that was never paid for, that has authorized the deficit. it is us, the members of congress that do that. and we can do this. we can put together a plan that over time actually gets this deficit down. but you can't do it month by month and threat by threat. >> congressman john garamendi, california, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >> always, ed, you it. >> remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts with us on twitter @edshow and on facebook. we always want to know what you think. coming up, john boehner got a good scare today during the vote for house speaker. richard wolffe tells us what today's circus means for the country going forward.
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but first, today was the official swearing in day for the senate. vice president joe biden did the honors. and he also did some glad-handing with the families of senators. this is how he handled meeting republican wyoming senator john barrasso and his mother. >> hey, ma. >> hey. >> how are you? good to see you. i'm joe biden. well, i -- >> she liked cheney better. >> i'm 60 years old, so take care. watch where you're walking. >> would you take a picture of this? >> tell him. >> now i've got evidence, guys.
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the new house will vote on part of a hurricane sandy relief bill tomorrow. aid can't come fast enough for those affected by the storm. i'll ask the small business owner how the delay has hurt recovery. and later, connecticut governor dan milloy calls on
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washington to get its act together on gun laws, but republicans are already saying no to new legislation. you can listen to my radio show on sirius xm radio channel 127 monday through friday noon to 3:00 p.m. share your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using the #edshow. we're coming right back. [ male announcer ] coughequence™ #8. waking the baby. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™.
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welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. house speaker john boehner squeaked out re-election. boehner retained his position as speaker of the house but it wasn't pretty. boehner got only a few more votes than he needed. there wasn't a coup but there were ten protest votes, which by
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house standards is actually a lot. here are some of those dissenting votes. >> bridenstine. >> eric cantor. >> cantor. allen west of florida. gohmert. >> former congressman allen west of florida. >> allen west of florida. yoho. >> eric cantor. >> cantor. >> you don't have to be a member of the house to be elected speaker, but votes for former congressman allen west pretty much are far out, don't you think? here's congressman louis gohmert's explanation. >> we cannot be about business as usual, and that's what my vote was. it was a statement we can't be about business as usual. >> congresswoman michele bachmann of minnesota introduced the first bill to repeal obama care in its entirety. in other words, republicans wasted no time getting the circus going again. but at least there were fewer of them. in the house there's going to be 233 republicans and 200
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democrats, with democrats gaining seven seats. in the senate 55 in the democratic caucus and 45 republicans, with democrats gaining two seats. the 113th congress has 101 women, or about 1 in 5 lawmakers. there is also a greater minority representation than ever before. almost all of it from the democratic side of the aisle. and this is the more progressive congress as well. no doubt about it. let's turn to richard wolffe, msnbc political analyst and vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com. well, meet the new boss. same as the old boss. >> right. >> is the 113th going to be like the 112th? any similarities? >> well, lots of similarities here. under -- >> in operation. >> right. look, the interesting thing is hearing, frankly, this crazy stuff come out of people, saying -- they were making a statement, a very public humiliating statement about trying to get a house speaker who's no longer a member of congress.
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what planet are they on? they're humiliating someone as they elect them their leader. and this is john boehner's problem. it's a job that no one else wanted. it's a job where he's only got power because they voted him into it but they won't vote for anything he agrees with the aren't. so they undercut him one week and then promote him back to his old job the next week. it's an impossible situation. if he was a different person, you might have some sympathy for him. >> he's been damaged badly in the past month, in the past year, actually. but nobody wanted the job. >> nobody else wanted the job. and look, there's a bigger question for republicans that i think mitch mcconnell understands, which is are they ready for government? can they project out they're responsible and can take the series of problems this country faces and deal with them? what you've got is a house caucus that is more interested in opposition. even if that is opposition to their own opposition, right? being an opponent to john boehner if you're eric cantor is the sweet spot. >> their target before was to make sure that president obama
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didn't get re-elected. now they're kind of searching for a target right now. and i thought there was a lot of frustration today being shown by republicans. they know they lost on the fiscal cliff, and now they're getting beat up big-time in the arena of public opinion when they start talking about using the debt ceiling as leverage. boehner is reportedly done negotiating one on one with president obama. an aide said he is recommitting himself and the house to what we've done, which is letting the house work its will. what's the translation there? >> which is not leading, right? not leading. look, he's cut out all future negotiations with the white house. he can say i'm not going to negotiate with the white house. there's no reason for the white house to negotiate with him either. they can negotiate directly with mitch mcconnell, watch them try to jam it down the house because who does he represent? the problem is they cannot get to yes. the house republicans are only united in saying no. >> will they default on the debt ceiling? >> i don't see how they can. i mean, they will be in a world
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of pain. they will bring it down on the rest of the country. i think that's an impossible position. they blinked. remember, in any negotiating, in any hostage taking you cannot blink as they have repeatedly and still maintain credibility. >> all right. in the senate, filibuster reform is in doubt because senate majority leader harry reid is looking for a bipartisan agreement. is this a pipe dream? i mean, it's like harry is trying to be the gentleman right now, going to give them as much time as he possibly can, but is he going to go down that road? >> harry reid is a creature of the establishment, and he wants to maintain his position if he's in the minority, whether he's the leader or not. i think he should do more than just tweak the rules, which is what they're pretending to do here. there's a significant group of senators, and you've interviewed them, who really believe the time is right for change. you know, for harry reid, if you've grown up manipulating the rules -- and by the way, doing it very well as minority -- >> why not do it now, though? why not do it now? >> because he -- you know, being minority leader in the senate is a much better job than being majority leader because you get
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to mess with the other side much more effectively. the cards are with the minority in the senate in a way that they are not in the house. >> but the function of the senate has frustrated americans. filibuster after filibuster. and the president doesn't deserve, that especially after being elected twice, you know, by arguably a mandate. the electoral college and also in the popular vote as well. so why wouldn't harry do this to give the president some latitude to get some things done? >> because he has been in the minority and because he worked it very effectively against president bush. that's the pure, simple, cold hard truth of it. and you know, there's a fear element to it, which is frankly stymieing the will of the people and the congress. >> richard wolffe, great to have you with us. happy new year. >> and to you too. >> thanks for coming in. you bet. next the house will vote on just a small part of the hurricane sandy relief package tomorrow. but is it too little too late? i'll talk with one small business owner in brooklyn. to assess the damage. it's hurt a lot of folks. first, back to the senate,
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welcome back to "the ed show." with $60 billion in relief money on the line, the senate had done its job. so earlier this week it was up to the house to pass a disaster relief package for the victims of hurricane sandy. and believe me, there's a lot of them. yet at the last minute john boehner pulled the bill from consideration, catching lawmakers by surprise. congressman peter king of new york made the tv rounds yesterday, at one point telling folks at home to stop donating money to the house gop's campaign committee. >> i'm saying anyone from new york and new jersey who contributes one penny to the republican congressional campaign committee should have their head examined. i would not give one penny to these people based on what they did to us last night. >> well, a short time later boehner met with lawmakers and assured them he would put the bill on sandy relief back on the schedule today. congressman king was singing a different tune. >> what's done is done. the fact is when the money was on the line, when the decision
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had to be made, john boehner made the right decision. john boehner agreed to put it all on the calendar. john is really a voice of reason in our conference. despite some of the things i said yesterday. >> all right. whatever it takes. the vote may be on the calendar. but it still will take time to pass. the house will vote on just $9 billion in flood aid tomorrow. in two weeks the house will vote on the rest of the package, some $51 billion. the senate will need to approve both measures in the meantime. real people are hurting. small businesses are struggling to survive. many will close. this has disrupted thousands of lives in this part of the country. victims of sandy have waited how long? 67 days for some type of congressional action. their wait continues. i'm joined tonight by mochk by burn, a small business owner in the red hook section of brooklyn, new york and head of
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the organization restore red hook. monica, good to have you with us tonight. right to it. you own a wine and bar restaurant in brooklyn. we've got some pictures of the damage caused by sandy to your restaurant. what is your situation right now? what's happening here with you? >> well, my situation and that of all the other small businesses in red hook is pretty dism dismal. we are slowly trying to rebuild. we founded an organization called restore red hook to raise money to do that because there are absolutely no other resources for us. there are few loans that are available to us, but that's it. the rate of approval for those loans are 40%, which means 60% of the small businesses that have been devastated by this crisis are not going to get the funding they need to rebuild. and even those who do get it are incurring new debt. there's absolutely no other help, and it's a serious, serious crisis. sxl what do you need the government to do? what do you want them to do?
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>> the government needs to start providing funds. there needs to be a retention fund set up in the areas affected by this devastation so that the businesses can retain. they can stay. they can rebuild. and they can become part of their communities again. every one of these small mom-and-pop businesses like my own that has anywhere from 5 to 20 employees, it's our jobsish it's their jobs. it's the services we provide to the community. it is how we affect the communities overall as a whole. and right now in my community we're at a point where most of us will probably get our doors open again, but will we sustain the debt that we've incurred as a result? will we start seeing people closing within 8 to 16 months because they were never able to fully recover, they were never able to get back again? and that's what we're really looking at. it's the teeny businesses that are going to peel off one by one that no one will notice because we're too small to save. >> and this is disrupting a lot of lives. you've got employees who aren't getting a paycheck right now, is
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that correct? >> absolutely. and we're very lucky. we have a few who are super loyal and have been extremely patient. but how are people in the restaurant industry supposed to wait six, eight weeks without a job? >> how frustrated are you with congress? >> i'm sorry? >> how frustrated are you with congress? >> words fail me. i mean, it's reprehensible. this is not a time for partisan politics. this is a time for people to be coming together the way that people are in the communities. congress should be ashamed of themselves. john boehner should be definitely ashamed of himself. >> what would be the best type of funds that would -- could come to your district and this little organization you've put together to help these businesses recoup that would seem to me that business recovery funds would certainly be in order? you pay federal taxes. why can't you get some of it back in the wake of a disaster like that? would that be asking too much? >> that's exactly what's needed. there are large places there. the nyu medical center will get
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over $100 million to rebuild. and while i completely agree that that's crucial, it's the small businesses that won't get any assistance in rebuilding and it's the small businesses that are the backbone of our communities. >> why is this happening now? we have always taken care of our next-door neighbor in hurricanes, tornadoes, floods. but all of a sudden this. what do you make of that? >> i really can't even tell you. i think we have a crisis where relief is concerned in general. and i think that truthfully, if you start to look back at stories about haiti and stories about katrina people are wondering where is the money and why didn't it get into the hands of the people who needed it most, the victims, instead of going to various ngos with well-intentioned programs, et cetera, that aren't really helping people rebuild their lives. >> it just seems to me that politically sandy just happened at the wrong time, which is just absolutely outrageous, that that would even be a consideration. >> unquestionably. christine -- >> monica byrne, we've got to run. thank you for joining us tonight. keep the faith. keep going.
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it's americans like you that keep our economy going. and congress needs to act. there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay with us. >> we're creating this sense of economic dependence, which to me is a form of modern 21st century slavery. >> i would like to restore your right to drink raw milk anytime you wanted to. >> there's a new congressional circus in town. so tonight we say good-bye to some of the retiring clowns. >> this pisses me off! >> new gun laws are introduced in the house and senate. guess how many republicans support them. >> if barack obama begins taxing me more than 50%, which is very possible, i don't know how much longer i'm going to do this. >> and president obama signed the bill. so where's bill o'reilly's two-week notice? >> this fair share garbage has got to stop. >> michael thomasky is here to deflate the hot air. your mouth has sipped, snacked, ...yellowed... lived,
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thanks for staying with us tonight. the 113th congress did not vote on or even debate any gun legislation today. they didn't even have to think about it. but the children who survived the massacre at sandy hook elementary school had to confront their fears and go back to school. it's been only 21 days since a gunman slaughtered 20 first-graders and seven adults. republicans have remained quiet while americans set a record for gun purchases last month. the bushmaster, like the one adam lanza used at sandy hook, is reportedly a hot seller. but the latest poll shows 58% of americans want stricter gun laws. support for gun control is up 15% since october. you'd think the calls for reform would convince congress. the democrats in the house plan to introduce a bill to ban the sale of magazines which hold more than ten rounds at a time. senator dianne feinstein will
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introduce a similar bill that would ban certain firearms with magazines holding over ten rounds. we're not talking about banning the average gun here, folks. we're talking about banning the kinds of assault weapons eric harris and dylan klebold used to murder fellow students in columbine. we're talking about the kinds of weapons designed specifically to kill people. these guns don't require a lot of expertise to operate. we're talking about big drums packed with ammo. this guy managed to fire off 100 rounds in about a minute. the latest poll shows that 62% of americans favor a ban on these massive ammo drums and magazines. democrats are asking for the bare minimum. a simple ban on high-capacity clips. but congress's newest republicans are already saying no. the incoming head of the judiciary committee says gun control is not going to be something i support.
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other republicans with key leadership support won't take a stand or say ha they'll consider any gun ban at all. one actually tried to outlaw background checks and waiting periods in his home state. this is your incoming class of republicans. congress members, congressional members have to choose. they can give in to the nra or they can protect america's children with reasonable reform. i'm joined tonight by katrina van den heuvel, editor and publisher of "the nation" magazine and jonathan alter, msnbc political analyst and columnist for bloomberg view. great to have both of you with us tonight. >> thank you. >> the pulse of the country has changed. katrina? >> the pulse has changed, but one thing we must do is end the nra's stranglehold on our politics. you know, i think it's important to remember, ed, that the nra has some 4 million members but there are 100 million gun owners in this country who support common sense legislation to reduce gun violence. the nra represents the gun industry more than it does its rank and file members who,
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according to a poll by republican frank luntz, support, nra members support common sense gun control legislation. i think we need to make this moment a moment where americans are angry, are outraged, make it into a movement. and we need americans to tell their legislators they're fed up, enough, we don't want to see guns out of control, more guns, more bullets mean more kids dead. >> jonathan, a lot on the table here. how heavy a lift is this? >> these bills that are introduced right now aren't going to go anywhere. the big action is going to be after vice president biden reports back his findings to the president and then in february or march they introduce what will be a holistic anti-violence package. it will not be a gun control measure. in fact, nobody, especially those like katrina and me who really want a campaign against the nra, a movement against the
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nra, none of us should call it gun control. all that does is play into that. we should ban the phrase "gun control." if we're going to talk about guns at all it should be common sense gun safety with common sense preceding everything. a lost it's about language, ed. >> i think that's fair. >> you have to reframe the debate. >> i agree. you have to reframe the debate so it's not individual freedom versus government control, it's about public safety. but you know what i think? potent allies in this, ed, are the mayors against illegal guns. 700 mayors in cities and towns. suburban towns across this country. police chiefs. there is a reason that vice president biden in the first meeting of his task force brought in police chiefs, who don't want these assault weapon guns that are for battlefields, not -- >> sure. also 4 million in the nra is not very big. the aarp has many more. president obama has 16 million names in organizing for america. those people can be mobilized -- >> make it a movement.
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>> to change this and reframe it. and you can throw in some things about mental health. it doesn't just have to be about guns. you can have elements of this package that appeal to other -- >> could the president take some executive action? >> yes. and i think you saw the mayors against illegal guns in 2009 drew up a set of steps the president could take after the gabby giffords shooting it's reported the department of justice at its bequest did so. you could see a ban on assault weapons. you could see simple things like could we get in a director of alcohol, firearms, tobacco? there hasn't been one for six years because of republican obstruction. tracking of criminal weapons. interstate strike forces so you don't have these illegal guns 234r0e9ing -- >> the single most important -- >> you may need to without a filibuster reform. you may not be able to get it through the senate without even some -- like manchin of west virginia and warner of virginia have been traditionally unwilling to move.
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they're now -- >> manchin's starting to move. a lot of this is just legislative skill. but it's very important to focus on that gun show loophole because 40% of gun sales are done around regulation, these private gun sales. it needs to be turned into a felony if you make an illegal gun sale, and the gun show loophole has to be closed -- >> i just think we have to remember, yes, we need safety, we need public safety. but don't remember that the nra is really made up of republican operatives, lobbyists like grover norquist. they don't even represent the rank-and-file members, let alone the 100 million gun owners in this country who seek common sense -- >> yeah, there's only a fraction of gun owners in this country that are even associated with the national rifle association. >> that's right. >> but they're a political arm and they're a force to be reckoned with and they're already making headways in getting teachers armed. and that is another discussion that we'll bring you back and talk about. it's crazy. but that's exactly where they are. katrina van den heuvel and jonathan alter, great to have you with us tonight. it's a new year and a new
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>> that gives us heat. >> i -- two pinches because i like it spicy. >> curry powder -- >> pinching that again. >> you are meticulous with the pinch like really pinching that. >> you can go for it. you want don't want to overpower. >> like pinch like that. like! >> back in the day. the bam! [laughter] >> what else is there. >> mango juice an pineapple juice. use more manage goal. pineapple has froth and we will shake it up. >> pineapple here. >> little pineapple and a lot
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of mango. >> i will take it. little for foam. >> so straight up mango you fine in the grocery store. >> not a ton of booze so i am a little sad. >> two ounces. >> ok. [laughter] >> not a tonne. welcome add more. >> a lot of juice. >> that's a lot of juice. >> we could have seconds on the drinks. >> these guys you have to watch the tops because top here because that will come off. mine doesn't. give it really -- really frothy. >> froth. who has biggest froth? [laughter] >> pop that up. you can see -- pour if the glass. i will strain it because i need my trainer here. >> this is strainer as well or -- >> that is a strainer. you do not need one because on the top here.
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[laughter] >> it is ok though. you can see -- whoo! >> that level of foam there. >> i got a small froth. oh, no! you. >> want -- you can add ice. >> trying to save this segment knots safable. steven. >> cayenne pepper an curry but it looks pretty on this large frothy that i have. >> it looks amazing. cheers! wow. that's amazing! >> that's really cool. >> you should drink that on friday put your feet up and -- >> it is amazing. >> this is best one you have on the show them this is incredible good. >> thanks for bringing this to us. >> we are break and we are drink these frothy drinks and when we come back we have our life made easy.
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[cheering] [applause] >> welcome back. too many for life made easy and we have really cool natural deodorize pour your home. >> they are cute. >> we are said that love room deodorize it is all chemical >> you are spending money and these are things in the house. easy make and look charming. package -- you do yourself apso charming. >> we have regular mason jar and get baking soda and fill up a jar halfway so with regular baking soda and few drops of vanilla extract. i love it. >> like bake being segment -- but we are not. >> essential oils that you love.
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